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This is what an ISMer had to say about Yersterday events Latin
by LSM 1:56pm Wed Aug 20 '03

Any jews got killed yesterday - you would not know it if you listen to ISM.

The important thing is that ISM gave the TV crew a field day !!!
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From ISM web site:

" Of course, the TV cameras had a field day. Over and over the
bulldozer stuck its snout into the pile, bucking up and down, giving Leon and me the ride of our lives, as it smoothed out the roadblock and squished
the dirt back down into a serviceable road.

When the first car passed the open road, everyone cheered, Leon and I
climbed down from the cab of the bulldozer, the internationals and
Palestinians picked up the shovels and hoes, and we rode the first two cars
into Jenin. A ten minute drive.

It was a good victory, a small victory over these dreadful occupiers.
For we know that they will come back and fill in the roadblock, because
they can and have in the past.

But for today, we have a small victory. Since two ISM people have been arrested, a home blown up and more Palestinians killed and wounded over
the past day, our victory has been bittersweet.

Greta"

Maybe Great acn provide us with info as to what Palestinian got killed over the past day - does she refer to the bomber in Jerusalem ? Who else ?

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It is from ICAHD Latin
by Yadda Yadda, bullshit 2:20pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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What you quote is from the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions. So do you accuse Jeff Halper and company of the same thing you accuse ISM?

Check out for yourself:
http://www.icahd.org/eng/

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I have no idea about ICHAD Latin
by LSM 2:22pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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Did it ever occur to you that the same stuipd e-mail can be on TWO web sites ?

Why do you look for ways to attack me instead of fixing what is wrong with the Israeli left ?

Toll Kora

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It is from the ICAHD website Latin
by Yadda Yadda, bullshit 2:26pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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The question remains. It even says on ISM site that it is from ICAHD.

BTW, they are talking about an incident that took place during the day, which is before the bombing, correct?

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It is from ISM Latin
by LSM 2:36pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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This starts:

"Sometimes There are Small Victories
(full report available on www.palsolidarity.org in
\'recent reports\')
Jenin
19 Aug 03
Greta


In Berqeen, a small village just outside of Jenin ...."


No mention of ICHad aor anything. Greta berlin is am ISMer.

Still, the question remain:

The only Palestinian "killed" yesterday is the one that killed himself (+ 20 more jewish kids and parents + wounded 120) Greta complain about "more palestinian death today" - Is she rfering to the bomber and neglecting the children - how typical of ISM: Jewish can not be victims.

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http://palsolidarity.org/recent reports\ Latin
by http://palsolidarity.org/recent reports\ 2:38pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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http://palsolidarity.org/recent reports\

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One and the other Latin
by Yadda Yadda, bullshit 2:59pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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Ah, you are correct (on one point). I was looking at another field report from the 19th also, which also 'fails' to mentiion the bombing. So the question still stands, if you accuse ISM of not mentioning the bombing, than you must aslo accuse ICAHD of the same thing, correct? But the bombing occured in the evening and the events they describe occured in the day.


http://palsolidarity.org/reports/writings/19Aug03_18_14_25JerusalemICAHD.htm


Jerusalem
ICAHD
19 Aug 03



From the ICAHD Website (ISM Report to Be Posted Tomorrow)
A DAY OF DEMOLITIONS

. . .The bulldozers then proceeded to the home of the Jabari family in Beit Hanina, home to nine persons, where Israeli and international activists have met daily in anticipation of the demolition. Although the Jabari home was built in an area zoned for building – where the Municipality claims it does not demolish – it was demolished nevertheless.

Khader Jabari and his brother threatened to commit suicide if the house was destroyed, and they both cut themselves severely before stopped by the police. Jeff Halper and Linda Livni were arrested resisting the demolition; it remains to be seen if charges will be pressed.

ICAHD calls on the international community to intervene to prevent house demolitions – in the Occupied Territories (including "east" Jerusalem), as well as within Israel itself where the demolition of the homes of Palestinian and Bedouin citizens of Israel has reached epidemic proportions. We ask you to call your representatives, your civic leaders and religious leaders and your local media so that they may raise
their voices against this unjust and tragic policy.

(complete report on ICAHD website, www.icahd.org)

ISM photos at www.palsolidarity.org in ’related photos’
Video footage will be posted tomorrow.
Related Photos - "Day of Demolitions"

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You are a Clear example of propeganda Latin
by LSM 3:02pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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ISM had over 12 hours from yesterday bombing.

Still they say and do nothing.

ISM does not mention jewish victim - how can jews be victims ?

ISM just lie about Palestinian death - see Greta report: Palestinian dies today" - the only one that died is the bomber .

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The report might have been written or posted Latin
by Blimey 3:47pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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.... yesterday - it actually refers to events on the 16th, 17th or 18th - the clue is in this bit:

"Since two ISM people have been arrested, a home blown up and more Palestinians killed and wounded over the past day, our victory has been sweet"

The ISMers were arrested on the 16th

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It Is Aug 19 and it refer to Palestinian death Latin
by LSM 3:51pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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The report starts:

"Jenin
19 Aug 03
Greta "


It refer to Palestinian death.

The only one died on Aug 19 is the bomber.

The e-mail distributed today.

19 hours since the bomb and ISM has nothing to say (or do) to prevent such war crimes

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The report might have been written or posted Latin
by Blimey 4:02pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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.... yesterday - it actually refers to events on the 16th, 17th or 18th - the clue is in this bit:

"Since two ISM people have been arrested, a home blown up and more Palestinians killed and wounded over the past day, our victory has been sweet"

The ISMers were arrested on the 16th

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Why waist time on Jews haters like Blimey -read on Latin
by AMR 8:59pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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I was reading quietly all that these two things were writing about us.

Yes, I meant the two things called themselves Blimey and John V.

Both, without any shadow of doubt, are designated racists, twisted minded, Jews haters, Anti-Semitics, Anti-Israel, pro-terrorists.

Worse, they are in complete denial of this fact, and this is a fact, I was reading carefully every note of those two cockroaches and was amazed.

My library is full of books that I was reading them in an effort to understand what brought the Europeans to do what they were doing to my family in the concentration camps.
I do understand now the level of Jews-hatred that brought to the murder of 6 millions of us just recently. I witnessed that in the notes of the beasts, Blimey and John V.

That kind of hatred is so hot that is capable of igniting again the terrible ovens our ancestors were burned in.

I am amazed of the level of preoccupation and prejudice these two cockroaches are holding.
They are coming from Europe and if somebody is allowed on generalization Europe is the place we are allowed to. After all Europe is the biggest place on earth that is concluding murder, racism, genocide, discrimination etc. etc

The Europeans earned the title EUROPIGS rightfully. Most of the Humanity’s suffer in the past 2000 years came from Europe and by Europeans. I feel righteous to generalize on Europe.

Both cockroaches are sitting somewhere in Europe surrounded by the murderous Europigs and trying to teach us humanity matters.

Blimey and John V. it should take another 2000 for somebody like you, asking for God forgiveness to be righteous enough to talk with Jews and Israelis in the same eye level. Until then… Shut the F.. up.

To the Israelis and Jewish responders to these two anti-Semitic cockroaches, do not bother.

I do not know about you but I do know about me…

I am a proud Jew
I am a proud Israeli.
I am proud of the right to serve with the IDF
I am proud of fighting the survival wars of Israel 1967, 1973, 1982
I am appreciating much the IDF activity of defending the people of Israel these days

It is not a shame to fight for your survival, for me it is a source for a pride, w should not be apologetic for fighting our survival.

Ignore the side noises of the racists, anti-Semitics, Jews haters Blimey and John V..

We will proceed and fight for our survival. We will make peace one day with the Palestinians; we will live side by side with the Palestinians. We will make all that without the evil “Support” of those genocide and murderers: the Europigs.

We will do all that despite of those peace destroyers like these two Cockroaches and their racist gangs.

We will extend our hand for the true balanced, peace promoters in Europe after they have got ride of evil and racist elements like these two.

Usually I am for talking, dialog and understanding. But here we should wake for the reality. Those two are hopeless and actually not that important to spend a valuable time on.

We the Israelis are having much more important things then to deal with these two cockroaches, let’s the exterminators take care of them.

Is it wrong to hate and deny any advice and opinion of your nation’s murderers? NO, I DO NOT THINK SO !!

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Hebrew
by Jmd 11:15pm Wed Aug 20 '03

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The ISM does NOT mention the holocaust too.

Well, it just happens that that incident occured
in a different millenium.

So what, they had over a half century to report
on it, but don't.

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History Latin
by LSM 1:04am Thu Aug 21 '03

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ON the other hand the version of History (5000 years ago till today) on ISM web site is so imaginative and very similar to history as it is shown on Hammas web sites. The short version is that they claim that Palestinians are the ancient Canaanite and philistines and Jews were always here temporarily...but who cares about history. We – Israelis and Palestinians need to fins a compromise instead of placing blame and ISM is not at all helping in reducing violence.

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