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Fatah leader Marwan Barghouthi tells Israeli Court ......  
 
by Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP)
2:55am Thu Oct 2 '03
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Barghouthi tells court One cant be a Palestinian leader if he doesnt fight the occupation. Imprisoned Fatah leader Marwan Barghouthi told an Israeli court Monday  
that Palestinians have an inherent right to resist the Israeli military occupation of their homeland.
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Barghouthi tells court One cant be a Palestinian leader if he doesnt fight the occupation. 
   
   
Imprisoned Fatah leader Marwan Barghouthi told an Israeli court Monday that Palestinians have an inherent right to resist the Israeli military occupation of their homeland.  
   
We have been suffering under your sinister military occupation for the past 36 years, you killed us, you tortured us, you destroyed our homes, you seized our land, you made our life an enduring hell. We have a legal and moral right to resist your occupation. If you were in our shoes,  
you would   do the same as we are doing, you would resist, Barghouthi told the District Court in Tel Aviv.  
   
Barghouthi told the court it had no right to prosecute him since he was a citizen of another country and that Israel had no jurisdiction over the Palestinian people.  
   
He reminded Israelis that their state had committed 14 massacres against the Palestinians which culminated in the Nakba of 1948 and the expulsion of the bulk of the Palestinian people from their ancestral homeland and dispersal to the four corners of the globe.  
   
He described his trial by the Zionist court as silly and goes against the nature of things.  
   
It is I and my people who should be trying you for occupying my country and tormenting my people. We are your victims, you are our tormentors.  
   
Barghouthi warned Israel against impeding the creation of a viable Palestinian state, saying that Palestinians would never accepted a truncated and disconnect state on isolated parts of the West Bank as envisaged by the Israeli government.  
   
You either accept a Palestinian state on all the occupied territories of 1967, or well force you to accept a bi-national state on all mandatory Palestine.  
   
The imprisoned Fatah leader praised the Israeli Air Force pilots who had refused to carry out operations on Palestinian towns and villages in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, saying the pilots realized that what they had been committing war crimes all along.  
   
Defying his captors, Barghouthi said the fight against the occupation would continue every minute and every moment, adding that a man cannot be a Palestinian leader if he doesnt fight the occupation.  
   
Several peace activists and representatives of the European Parliament attended the hearing. 
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Dhoud, clean your stable first....  
 
by AMR
9:33am Thu Oct 2 '03
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Dhoud you are a Canadian right? 
 
Well, according the Canadian Newspapers (Star, Financial-Post)Canada is harbouring and providing shelter for no less then 30 (THIRTY) diferent Islamic terror organization as of now. 
 
I suggest you, before criticizing Israel, make sure you have cleaned up your deeds. 
 
Clean up your own stables will you... add your comments
 
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Take it or leave it  
 
by John Veldhuis
10:00am Thu Oct 2 '03
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Whatever the situation in other countries, Mr. Barghouti is completely right. 
 
Other governments may be harbouring terrorist organisations, the Israeli government currently IS a terrorist organisation to me. 
 
You either accept a Palestinian state on all the occupied territories of 1967, or you will be forced to accept a bi-national state on all mandatory Palestine.  
 
There you have it.  
 
Do you really want peace, or Israeli control over Ariel and all the other illegal colonies? add your comments
 
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by sa
2:52pm Thu Oct 2 '03
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i think that person who is demading to clean the stables " is a son of a bitch", i think if he carries a gun he would shoot his mama, cuz she brought him to life! (even terrorist should have  a fiar trial) the law is not in your hands mr. 
 
and for the leagal issues concering mr bargoti, i think it is hard to say anything, cuz its not easy case! 
 
i doupt the israeli leagal system, i don't belive in it, and many israelis share this with me. 
 
there should be reforms in it,  
 
mr bargoti's case is more political than being leagal, and there is many exiting parts will appear in this drama. add your comments
 
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by sa
2:53pm Thu Oct 2 '03
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i think that person who is demading to clean the stables " is a son of a bitch", i think if he carries a gun he would shoot his mama, cuz she brought him to life! (even terrorist should have  a fiar trial) the law is not in your hands mr. 
 
and for the leagal issues concering mr bargoti, i think it is hard to say anything, cuz its not easy case! 
 
i doupt the israeli leagal system, i don't belive in it, and many israelis share this with me. 
 
there should be reforms in it,  
 
mr bargoti's case is more political than being leagal, and there is many exiting parts will appear in this drama. add your comments
 
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...just shoot the bastard  
 
by goldberg
7:33pm Thu Oct 2 '03
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Thank you...  
 
by Frank Zappa
9:48pm Thu Oct 2 '03
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Mr. Goldberg (right brain side) for your very constructive recommendation. My greatings to your right brain side (AMR) and, of course, to the IDF. If everybody at IDF has the same attitude, why are you posting at Indymedia? Go to the enemy, do your job, kill others. This is the message of all your postings. But please no complaints if you will be killed too by the revenge of the revenge of the revenge of the revenge of the revenge etc. add your comments
 
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..zappa  
 
by goldberg
6:49am Fri Oct 3 '03
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...just what would you propse we do with the guy?....let him go...so he could send more bombers?.....stick him in jail..so we can trade him ...send him out of the country...? what,you tell me... add your comments
 
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Dear goldberg  
 
by Frank Zappa
7:55am Fri Oct 3 '03
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your IDF twin posted today something I can agree: "So We, Israelis and Palestinians are suffering the consequences of the Palestinian leadershipגs wrong decisions." He only forgot that indeed there are two sides of the coin. He forgot that Israelis and Palestinians are also suffring the consequences of Israel´s leadership. Hate and killing will never be a solution. Hate makes both sides blind. All hatered Palestinians and Israeli people are thinking only in one thing: how can I do the next revenge. I would recommend to stop actions that provoce more violence. But I am not Sharon. add your comments
 
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Dear goldberg (part 2)  
 
by Frank Zappa
8:12am Fri Oct 3 '03
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I would hope that some day there is a) one governement where both Israelis ans Palestinians live in peace together or if not at least b) two governements which live in peace together and in which the democratic society arrest all fanatics and bring them to a court by legal proceedings - and if they are guilty they should be arrested. add your comments
 
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