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to kenny and AMR
author: RC



You are both speaking your own truths, and that is always commendable, i feel. I think it is a good dialogue here. I come from a spiritual perspective, usually, cause i think that ideas and inner understanding and beliefs preceed all action..It is all about how we frame things. The story of Job, being the best example, i think..



Job resolved his suffering and moved on, to a new place of peace in himself, and in his life, after he had a psycho/spiritual breakthrough..He was 'told' by Gd, that creation is infinitely deep and mysterious. He was 'told' that narrow and fundamentalistic views of reality are always an insult to Gd, and also make people unable to be compassionate (in the case of Jobs friends). They were fundamentalists..They saw things in black and white. "If you are suffering, you must be sinning." Job's enlightenment is that he saw the suffering that stems from limited thinking, and realized, as Einstein said, that "no problem can be solved by the consciousness that created it"..This implies evolution of consciousness. And I think it is no accident that it is the last time Gd spoke to a human being in the Bible. It says so very, very much. It points the way for the future.



We must always look for the deeper lessons in life, or else we will repeat history..Israeli people are somehow recreating history. So something is wrong here. There would not be a rise in antisemitism if this were not true..Same with the 'antisemites'. There hasn't been any real learning here, except, more lack of trust. And a feeling of needing to be separated from the 'other'..We need to really take the story of Job to heart, and realize that no one is meant to be stagnant..Evolution and growth and expansion is the way of the universe, and we are part of that..As we expand, Gd expands..We are all connected. The idea of "they are out to get us" is going to create more and more of the same cycle. We can't hold on to old truamas and move forward..This is true of individual psychology, and it is true of whole societies..If we hold on, we are creating our own prison.



Something needs to be worked through here..I personally think it has to begin with ourselves, because that is what we have control of..Feeling vicitimized seems to be on bothe sides of this situation. Jewish victimization should not be part of the Jewish religion. Unless it is to be examples of how to transcend victimization and learn from it..And see how our perspectives help to create our own reality. Which is what Job was really about. We need to get that only human beings who follow the truth of 'do unto others' (and this can only come from the heart, from empathy), are going to lead the way to a future of peace..We can see quite clearly at this point in history, it cannot happen any other way..Because someone will always find something to project onto others and act out destructively from it. I believe that every major religion has the same underlying message, of course, which is human respect for each other, since we are all one..To honour Gd is to honour this Truth..NO EXCEPIONS OR EXCUSES...If someone is making excuses, then they don't get it..Period..



I don't know if I am even responding to the previous two writers, but somehow I believe I am...Shalom



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