American woman peace activist killed by IDF bulldozer in Gaza by ha'aretz 4:07pm Sun Mar 16 '03 ISM activist killed by IOF bulldozer in Gaza print article Sunday, March 16, 2003 Adar2 12, 5763 Israel Time: 18:31 (GMT+2) Back Home American woman peace activist killed by IDF bulldozer in Gaza By Arnon Regular, Haaretz Correspondent, and Agencies An American woman peace protester was killed Sunday by an IDF bulldozer, which ran her over during the demolition of a house at the Rafah refugee camp in the southern Gaza Strip. Another activist was wounded in the incident. Rachel Corey, 23, from Olympia, Washington, was killed when she ran in front of the bulldozer to try to prevent it from destroying a house, doctors in Gaza said. "Corey was killed in the al-Salam neighbourhood when an Israeli bulldozer covered her with sand as she stood in front of a bulldozer," said Dr Ali Musa, a doctor from the al-Najar hospital in the southern Gaza Strip. He said she died from skull and chest fractures. The IDF said it was checking the report. Greg Schnabel, 28, from Chicago, said the protesters were in the house of Dr. Samir Masri. "Rachel was alone in front of the house as we were trying to get them to stop," he said. "She waved for bulldozer to stop and waved. She fell down and the bulldozer kept going. We yelled 'stop, stop,' and the bulldozer didn't stop at all. It had completely run over her and then it reversed and ran back over her." Since the start of the Intifada, groups of international protesters have gathered in several locations in territories, setting themselves up as "human shields" to try to stop IDF operations. Corey was the first member of the groups, called "International Solidarity Movement," to be killed in the conflict. Schnabel said Corey was a student at Evergreen College and was to graduate this year. He said there were eight protesters at the site, four from the United States and four from Great Britain. "We stay with families whose house is to be demolished," he told the Associated Press by telephone from Rafah after the incident. www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/273457... add your comments

CFL ALERT: ISRAELI OCCUPATION FORCES KILL AMERICAN WOMAN by CITIZENS FOR FAIR LEGISLATION 6:48pm Sun Mar 16 '03 seham@cflweb.org CFL calls on all peace groups in the United States and around the world to contact congress and tell them that they must condemn this action and call for an investigation of Israeli policies in the occupied territories. print article ************************** For Immediate Release March 16, 2003 ************************* CFL ALERT: AMERICAN WOMAN KILLED BY ISRAELI OCCUPATION FORCES. GO TO http://cflweb.org/congress_merge_.htm. AND SEND A LETTER NOW. On 3/16/2003 an American woman in Gaza protesting the occupation was murdered after being run over by an Israeli bulldozer. Witnesses said Rachel Corey, from the state of Washington, was trying to stop a bulldozer from tearing down a building in Rafah, Palestine. A witness,Greg Schnabel, 28, from Chicago, said: "[Rachel Corey] waved for the bulldozer to stop. She fell down and the bulldozer kept going. We yelled 'stop, stop,' and the bulldozer didn't stop at all. It had completely run over her and then it reversed and ran back over her." CFL calls on all peace groups in the United States and around the world to contact congress and tell them that they must condemn this action and call for an investigation of Israeli policies in the occupied territories. Send a letter, make a phone call, let your voice be heard. ***************************** TALKING POINTS: * The death of Ms. Corey is one tragedy among thousands that are committed by Israel daily. The current administration refuses to prevent the murder and humiliation of Palestinians by the Israeli army. Demand that they speak out now that a fellow American has been killed by the Occupation forces. * Israelis continuously try to harm citizens from the U.S. and from around the world who have stood side by side with peace minded Israelis and Palestinians to fight against the occupation. American citizens are turned away and put on return flights home as soon as they land in Ben Gurion airport. Others are imprisoned without representation. Many Americans who call their Embassy in Israel are faced with ridicule and indifference. Ask your Representatives why they are silent about such blatant disrespect of our country? * Tell your elected officials that it is their duty to promote and protect the interests of Americans here and abroad and that those interests supersede the sordid relationship that many Congressmen and Senators have with Israeli politicians and lobby groups. *Demand that Israel stop its racist treatment of Americans in Israel. Whether they are Palestinian-Americans visiting their families, or non Arab-Americans wishing to express solidarity with the Palestinians. Solidarity is not a crime, and we demand that our government protect American citizens in Israel by holding Israel accountable for their treatment. Don't let the death of Rachel Corey go without condemnation. TAKE ACTION: To contact your elected officials see the personal contact information available on: http://cflweb.org/congress_merge_.htm. Please choose the appropriate letter to send! (YOU MUST PICK A SUBJECT FROM THE DROP DOWN BAR) [After you enter your contact info the appropriate addresses are provided. Simply type, or send our prewritten letter and click send. Be sure to bookmark this page so you can send ONE LETTER EVERY DAY. We have prewritten letters for your convenience.] ===================================================== Citizens for Fair Legislation is a grassroots organization committed to encouraging a fair domestic and foreign policy with an emphasis on the US/Arab world. contact: contact@cflweb.org web: www.cflweb.org PLEASE VISIT WWW.CFLWEB.ORG EVERY DAY TO SEE OUR UPDATES ON STORY OF THE WEEK, CARTOON OF THE WEEK, WEEKLY POLLS, AND FEATURED STORIES. SPREAD THE WORD AND HELP CFL GROW. www.cflweb.org add your comments

Picture of Rachel Corey by Reuters Newswire Service 8:17pm Sun Mar 16 '03 Picture of Rachel Corey add your comments Source file

Some Americans Are More Equal Than Others by Rowan Berkeley 4:28pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment I wish I believed that this will cause a rumpus. add your comments

Not every German was a Nazi, not every. . . by Marx 4:47pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment Not every German was a Nazi, not every Jew is a Zionist. As a jew I feel that this barbarism needs to stop. add your comments

by 4:48pm Sun Mar 16 '03 address: print comment Poor Rachel. IDF and NaZionists congratulations for killing unarmed american citizens. America WAKE UP you are under the rule of murderers dressed as as pro-Israel lobby!!!. Your bulldozers end up killing your citizens!!! add your comments

Solidarity from Italy by Tom 5:29pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment the terrible news was on the italian television. The enragement is totale between the millions of Italians that are fighting for peace and justice [yesterday almnost a million demonstrated in Milan] Poor Israel , poor jewish people, how could you sink so deep... All solidarity with the ISM and with all people that are fighting against war and terrorism, firstly that of the political regimes in countries as Israel, United States, Iraq and everywhere!! add your comments

Msg to a 'Good Jew' by X 5:39pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment I fail to understand your logic. How is killing innocent peacfull people going to make the world a better place? Will you feel safer once you have exterminated all who do not see eye to eye with you? How would you feel if your own ideas were directed at jews living outside of israel? people like you only serve to propogate hatred. add your comments

Who is Good Jew? by edy 5:53pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment So who is good jew- one who wants to transform us into nazis or the one who wants to live here in the state of israel in peace with all other peoples in the region? Who gave you , "Good Jew", the right to speak in the name of all jewish nation. A am Jew, Israeli and Zionist. I want peace for my country and for my people, and the only way to achive it is to give up the territories and come back home ( 67). add your comments

World Wide Solidarity by World Wide Solidarity 6:13pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment My solidarity is with the palestinian People. The state of Israel can never be justified. It´s a state of violence, terror and opression. To many people without faces has been killed in this imperialistic low-intensity war. Let's hope that the death of Rachel Corrie can make a difference and that her face can give all the faceless dead palestinians a face. It's sick that a life of a american or a westerneuropean is more worth than palestinian lifes. In Sweden there will start a big boycot-Israel campaign. Thoose Jaffa-fruits are grown with blood and we will eat them no more. In Norway there is a succesful boycot-campaign and you can´t find Israelic fruits and other stuff in the hole of Norway. add your comments

ciao rachel by italia 6:21pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment i am sorry and i hope peace for israel and palestinesi add your comments

Question by Peace 6:53pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment Why i don't see so called "peace" activists riding the buses or visiting isreali malls in order to protect them from suicide murders ??? Posibly because they don't care about peace but they care about supporting terrorist asshols. So go ahead. Hope she will 72 virgins. add your comments

by Anders 7:02pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment KPSS hmm intresting if we changes some word like "idf" to exempel "wit power" or watewer the smal nazis cal theri orginaisation. And antisemite to zog, its sounds exaktly like wath the nazis is writing... isent what prety intresting? add your comments

we love you Rachel by Jamie 7:10pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment Rachel was a beloved member of our community in Olympia, Washinton. She was so mush more than this article and her photo reveal, and we will miss her smile, her courage, her talented writing terribly. However, I believe that she would have wanted this to shed light on the system of brutality that killed her and so many other innocent people. She was not anti-semetic, and those who defend the IDF's genocidal operations (or the U.S.'s military support) with the lame excuse that protesters are "anti-semetic" are only brutalizing themselves and the memory of others who died in all-too-recent, state sponsored genocidal campaigns. Or has 60 years been enough time to forget? This is from one of her first emails home to Olympia from Rafah. "...Even then you are always well aware that your experience of it is not at all the reality: what with the difficulties the Israeli Army would face of they shot an unarmed US citizen, and with the fact that I have money to buy water when the army destroys wells, and the fact, of course, that I have the option of leaving. Nobody in my family has been shot, driving in their car, by a rocket launcher from a tower at the end of a major street in my hometown. I have a home. I am allowed to go see the ocean. Ostensibly it is still quite difficicult for me to be held for months or years on end without a trial (this because I am a white US citizen, as opposed to so many others). When I leave for school or work I can be relatively certain that there will not be a heavily armed soldier waiting half way between mud bay and downtown olympia at a checkpoint with the power to decide whether I can go about my business, and whether I can get home again when I'm done. So, if I feel outrage at arriving and entering briefly and incompletely into the world in which these children exist, I wonder conversely about how it would be for them to arrive in my world. They know that children in the United States don't usually have their parents shot and sometimes get to see the ocean. But once you have seen the ocean and lived in a silent place, where water is taken for granted and not stolen in the night by bulldozers, and spent an evening when you didn't wonder if the walls of your home might suddenly fall inward waking you from your sleep, and met people who have never lost anyone-- once you have experienced the reality of a world that isn't surrounded by murderous towers, tanks, armed "settlements" and now a giant metal wall, I wonder if you can forgive the world for all the years of your childhood spent existing--just existing-- in resistance to the constant stranglehold of the worlds fourth largest military apparatus--backed by the worlds only superpower-- in its attempt to erase you from your home. That is something I wonder about these children. I wonder what would happen if they really knew." We love you Rachel, and we'll try to honor your memory as best we can by continuing to fight for justice. add your comments

Another example of leftists activists supporting terror by KPSS 7:19pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment Fight for justice - you mean supporting suicide bombers? this is the quote form the site of the organization that Rachel belong to: "As enshrined in international law and UN resolutions, we recognize the Palestinian right to resist Israeli violence and occupation via legitimate armed struggle." So suicide bombers is legitimate struggle for leftists asshols. Supporting a terrorists asshols has a price tag - death. If you realy want peace you need to support both sides in finding a solution - not helping murders. add your comments

to Anders by KPSS 7:23pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment You know only one difference - jews in germany didn't blow up them self in sake of religion or just in sake of murder. Palestinian do that. So what do you want peaceful solution for two people , or helping arabs to kill more jews? I think you support killing more jews. I think you support murders and their families. I think you support international terror and dicatators like saddam , kim ir sen and arafat. i you lived in 30, you probable would have supported stalin. add your comments

for all the leftists - the arab killed many more by sambo 7:27pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment i'm very sorry for this poor and confused girl - what the hell did she do over there? why don't you talk about the dozens of U.S citizens that were killed because of palestinian's attacks? those arab terrorists killed so many U.S citizens (just because they were jews) here in Israel and we didn't hear anything from you. so do us a favour and shut up. sambo add your comments

she did it to herself by goldberg 7:28pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment ....it was her choice, why she and the others are helping these pieces of shit, who by the way cheered 9-11 is beyound me?she got what she had coming, now if the rest of her friends will join her. add your comments

I am not surprised by Noa 7:49pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment With the attitude like Sembo, Goldberg and KPPS, no wonder a lot of people dying. add your comments

To Rachel Coreys Fmily, we feel your Pain: by May solace be with you once gain: 7:51pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment Rachel Corey was crushed to death this Past weekend like the hundreds before her and the hundreds to come. This Peaceful college student was about to graduate when she met a fateful death under a Zionist bulldozer( which was finanaced through her family's tax donations). In the following year, This couragous student was to graduate from a Liberal Arts College and pursue her interests/ambitions further... Her life was prematurely cut short when she selflessly put herself on the line to protect a Humble abode of a Palestinian Family. May this graceful woman serve as a guiding light to us all wishing to put an end to this Senseless conflict and may she finally find the peace that was so absent on her last days on earth. Rest In Peace,Rachel Corey, Amen. add your comments

Kill all terrorism by Soon 8:04pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment KPSS, your comment suggests that Rachel(RIP) was pro terrorists and therefore she deserved to be killed by Israel. The only terrorst supporter is you and your fellow countrymen. add your comments

Arthur Dent by Arthur Dent 8:48pm Sun Mar 16 '03 address: What's a human shield's favourite soft drink? Crush! print comment "Mr Dent," he said. "Hello? Yes?" said Arthur. "Some factual information for you. Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?" "How much?" said Arthur. "None at all," said Mr. Prosser, and stormed nervously off wondering why his brain was filled with a thousand hairy horsemen all shouting at him. - Chapter One of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy," by Douglas Adams. users2.ev1.net/~file13/blog/archive/2003... add your comments

The buldozer is alive by Zaphod 9:45pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment The buldozer is alive add your comments

to Noa by KPSS 10:37pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment It is you that support murder and death. We just want to live peacefull live. add your comments

tragedy by Alex 11:44pm Sun Mar 16 '03 print comment It is a great tragedy when an innocent person is killed. Israeli, Palestinian, American, Iraqi etc. It is time to forgive past deeds. We all support terrorism in some form. No innocent people should pay the price. A suicide bomber and an Israeli tank/bulldozer are the same. Non-violence is a means and and end. We mustn't seek peace through destruction. Peace to you all add your comments

To KPPS by Noa 12:02am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment You could have fooled me. add your comments

"Dear" Mr. Edy by Just Jew 12:05am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment You only think you are Jew & a Zionist but actually you are NOT! Edy if you want to return home you are more than welcome to pack your things & go back to France/Belgium/Germany , that's the real home of you & the other left-anti-semite psychos. There is no Zionism without Zion! add your comments

I for one, am a Jew- and NOT a zionist. by marque 1:19am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment And my ancestral homeland was western Ukraine/Eastern Europe, where my ancesters lived probably for about 1000 years or so, until they were forced out by a racism that has never truly been confronted, but which has been displaced, with great injustice, onto another people, arabbs, in another region - ie, Palestine. And now a so-called Jewish state as killed another civilian- this time a young American woman- in a manner so vey reminiscent of the cossacks from whom my grandparents fled, resulting eventually in my being born on another colonized territory- North America. And Israel IS an issue of western colonialism- and this young American woman is yet another victim of that imperial colonialism as surely as all the Palestinian women, children and men are their victims, and as surely as those killed by suicide bombers are also victims of the same tragically stupid policy which ultimately benefits very few. It is inexcusable, and must end- WILL end eventually, one way or another. add your comments

Not the same thing by j. robinson 1:39am Mon Mar 17 '03 address: U$A jrobinson@riseup.net print comment "A suicide bomber and an Israeli tank/bulldozer are the same." This is not quite true. The Israeli bulldozer is a part of the state apparatus, which, in theory at least, represents the general will of all the citizens of Israel. By extension, all the people of Isreal killed Rachel, just as they all killed the thousands of Palestinians who have died in this intifada as well as in previous ones. On the other hand, suicide bombers are individuals, and represent, if anyone, only other members of terrorist organizations. You might argue that the Palestinian Authority supports terrorism, and therefore has the same relationship with suicide bombers that the Israeli Government has with IDF members. The PA, however, is not a nation-state, and is not recognized as being representative of the Palestinian people. The tactics of both are, in my mind, (as i sit here in the U$A, relatively safe from both bombs and bulldozers) reprehensible. The difference is that the Israeli actions come from a position of power and are motivated by the lust for power and greed for land of an occupying force. Those of suicide bombers come from a position of desparation and a desire to be left alone. I cannot understand the actions of the IDF or the support given to it by the citizens of Israel. I do not endorse violence except in direct self-defense, but i likewise cannot understand the hopelessness the plight of the Palestinians must engender. The most culpable entity in this conflict is the Israeli state, and if allegations of support for terrorists are true, then the Palestinian Authority's culpability is a distant second. The soilders and bombers are mere pawns, and should be pitied. Down with the Israeli state! Freedom to the Palestinians! add your comments

"Down with the state of Israel" by Just a Simple Jew 1:48am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment That sentence is summarizing your gencidical intension about the jews of Israel. Behind all the the words you wrote this "innocent" sentence is revealing the truth behind the mask of hypocrasy that you wear. add your comments

Abigail Litle by DaveS 1:56am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment On March 5, Abigail Litle, 14, was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing attack on a bus in the northern Israeli city of Haifa. Where are the photos of Abigail? add your comments

Dear David by Lily 2:00am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment Why don't you find it and publish it yourself? It is up to the readers to publish anything that is relevant. Don't wait for somebody else to do it for you. add your comments

Rest in peace, Rachel by Hali 2:02am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment Dear Rachel, rest in peace. We will continue to work, in PEACE, for justice. Love, Hali add your comments

David you can find her photo here by Just a Simple Jew 2:06am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/1,7340,L-2474514,00.html add your comments

Rest In Peace by FreeAlleyCat 3:24am Mon Mar 17 '03 artictern18@earthlink.net print comment Rachel, brave heart, rest in peace, young sister. Your solidarity and courage will be remembered by those who love justice and freedom everywhere. add your comments

Opposition to Fundamentalism and the State by An Anarchist 3:46am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment I don't think "Zionism" simply means having a state for Jews anymoe. The state's been established. The word now seems to mean a specific attitude toward Palestinians. There were people who could have been described as "Zionists", like Albert Einstein and Emma Goldman, who would have oppoed what happened in 1967 and later, certainly. The problem right now is that people who believe in freedom cannot possibly support Islamic Fundamentalism or suicide bombers... but right now the people with the monopoly of force and power are the Israeli army in Israel/Palestine. That's the only reason radical-minded people seem to "Take sides with the Palestinians" so much. Why do you assume that those of us who criticize what is going on hate jews, or embrace Islamic fundamentalism? Islamic Fundamentalism is as right-wing and reprehensible as any conservative, nationalist movement that gives Reason & common-sense a back-seat to emotionalism, cultural nationalism, and mystical beliefs held above human rights and scientific evidence. The suicide bombers SUCK... but how can they be stopped? If we spend all our time condemning them then the issue of where the Palestinians can live isn't solved. We know that the bombings are not happening for "no reason at all", and I don't think people like Arafat can do much about it... if Arafat or any other Palestinian leader denounced them or opposed them with force, he'd be ignored or even killed. Remember what happened to Malcolm X and Sadat? I think they were murdered by Islamic Fundamentalists because they took a "soft line". Islamic fundamentalism must be diffused, certainly... but fundamentalism and any other authoritarian, irrational ideology is fostered by fear, uncertainty, poverty and displacement. You would not have seen Pol Pot get so much power in Cambodia if the country didn't have the shit bombed out of it. No matter how strong our countries, governments, militaries may be, we simply cant "fuck with people" all the time. If we do it too much then attacks will come from direction we cant stop. This is the problem with terrorism and why it doesn't stop if the things causing it dont stop. And people in power cant accept this because they believe everything can be controlled, monitored, measured.... and it can be solved with more force. That isnt the case. You cant stop it. Clinton couldnt stop the Oklahom City Bombing after what happened at Waco. How could he? Conservative white Christian Americans were pissed off because of something Janet Reno did, and you couldnt have stopped a terrorist act unless you removed all freedoms Americans had - and even then I doubt it would have been stopped. The Jews who are supporting the current siutation.. are you crazy? You had the whole world believeing you were a just, suffering, honest and meak people after World War II... and you're ruining that whole image. Cant you look at other ways to deal with this? And if Jews make themselves look bad and anti-jewish sentiment gets stronger, then blacks, arabs, gays, mentally ill people.. anyone "different" will also be targetted in west and east european countries when their economies get bad and the corrupt leaders want some group to easily scapegoat. When jews are attacked they are just one group of many who will be attacked. All of us will suffer. Why cant you have a more international-oriented perspective? Why? Stop thinking only of yourself. It is NOT TRUE that the jews are all alone. Many many people would help them if they are persecuted. We see documentaries about what happened in Europe when the church persecuted jews, and what happened later when Hitler destroyed them. We arent laughing.. we don't think it's funny. We don't think they deserve it. I imagine myself when I was brutaly beaten-up on by bullies in school when I hear of jews being treated like shit simply for being jews. Do you think I don't care? Are you crazy? But if you deal with social and political problems with force.. in a clumsy heavy-handed way, youre ruining everything. You give people a reason to hate jews and then it helps foster a general cultural instability in many places. Arent there some secular Pelestinian groups that don't approve of suicide bombing? If you live in Israel and you are jewish, can't you talk to them? Would it really be the end of the world if you had friends who are Palestinians? Or even family members? What if your daughter wanted to marry one? Who CARES about all this "differences" crap? You are human beings! Please figure out how to work together!!! I live in America and I dont want to die because of something written in the bible or the torah or the koran. This is CRAZY! We have to stop all of this shit. Please try to think differently than you usualy think! Stop doing this! Stop! add your comments

To ``an Anarchist`` by . 4:03am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment The poster above is an obvious ZioNazi... add your comments

Jewish Identity by Rowan Berkeley 4:15am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment If "the Jewish people" cared as much about Justice and Truth as they like to claim, then each of them, individually, would do as much research as I have done into the bases of "Jewish identity", and each of them, individually, would arrive if they were honest at the conclusion that there is not enough meat in "the Jewish heritage" to make it worth preserving. notes: (1) I am not "Jewish". My research was conducted during various (eventually abandoned) conversion courses. (2) It is no longer the case that ceasing to be a "Jew" means conversion to christianity or islam or marxism or any other 'ism. (3) consequently the term "assimilation" no longer has any clear meaning. BITE THE BULLET, YOU HISTORICAL EXCEPTIONALISTS! add your comments

Jewish Identity by Rowan Berkeley 4:15am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment If "the Jewish people" cared as much about Justice and Truth as they like to claim, then each of them, individually, would do as much research as I have done into the bases of "Jewish identity", and each of them, individually, would arrive if they were honest at the conclusion that there is not enough meat in "the Jewish heritage" to make it worth preserving. notes: (1) I am not "Jewish". My research was conducted during various (eventually abandoned) conversion courses. (2) It is no longer the case that ceasing to be a "Jew" means conversion to christianity or islam or marxism or any other 'ism. (3) consequently the term "assimilation" no longer has any clear meaning. BITE THE BULLET, YOU HISTORICAL EXCEPTIONALISTS! add your comments

sorry, I hit"refresh" at the wrong moment by Rowan Berkeley 4:23am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment didn't intend to submit twice. I'm no Marxist, but I'm with the Yevsektsia on this one.Yup. add your comments

another picture of Rachel by Micha 6:01am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment http://indymedia.org.il/article/52496 Rachel Corrie, 23, from Olympia, Wash., a member of the 'International Solidarity Movement,' burns a mock U.S. flag during a rally in the southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites) town of Rafah in this Feb. 15, 2003 file photo add your comments

Jewish Identity by Edy 6:12am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment There is nothing wrong with Jewish Identity as long as I respect other people's Identities. I was born and grew up in the USSR, I know what antesemitism is. I also know what respect is. Respect that gave me my non-jewish friends, and I gave them. To An Anarchist. The sad thing happened to Zionism. It was uzurpated by apocaliptic religious movement that has actually little to do with original Judaism. All this cult of holy places, tombs and dead is not Judaism at all. add your comments

sad by km 8:04am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment this is truly a sad story. i really feel for this girl. this was a young woman who was only trying to better the world ; who was defending the seemingly defenseless. anyone who would slander her, i think, is beyond contempt. i would like to know an unbiased account of this story. if anyone has one... you cannot immediately jump on her reputation w/ a possibly incriminating photo or a call of 'antisemitic'. in her heart, you know she was probably doing what she did for all the right reasons. it truly sickens me to think that she was killed in a manner as reported--i want an unbiased account before i charge murder, tho. despite all , you still also cannot downplay the suicide bombers & terrorism in israel any more than the opposite--this terrorism is NOT new, it IS stepped up--but NOT new --& israel will always have a right to try & stop this happening any way it can---think abt THAT happening in your town, w/ your mom/dad sister/bro child/grandchild having a shot at the game of russian roulette of these bombings...TERRORISM like THAT will only engender the response that is happening in what we can see--the bulldozings, etc... this is not an enemy that can be assuaged, i dont think the extreme left understands that either,,, palestinians should not be incited to violence by any means. it is the embracing of it in the culture, for 50+ years now, that has contributed to their misery today & if the population roots it out---& if it given a fair chance to by the israelis--it can accomplish a state for itself. what do you need to do in order for this to happen? the change, ultimately, needs to be internal, & israelis are powerless in this aspect... new pal leadership, hopefully, will help. again, rest in peace rachel. add your comments

Get out of the way or die by USAF 1:08pm Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment Anti-War Protesters Beware By Associated Press Associated Press | March 17, 2003 Security forces at Vandenberg Air Force Base may use ``deadly force'' against protesters if they infiltrate the military complex if a war starts, officials said. Some anti-war activists plan to trespass onto base grounds in hopes of disturbing Vandenberg's mission and to vandalize sensitive equipment they contend helps guide the war effort. Vandenberg officials revealed Friday that military security police may shoot to kill, if necessary, to protect base residents and machinery. The directive has always been in existence, but a base spokeswoman said it is more critical now that people understand its severity. ``This is not fun and games anymore,'' said Maj. Stacee Bako. ``We're living in post 9/11. We don't know what's going to happen with the war effort in Iraq. These folks have got to realize their actions. ... They're illegal intruders.'' Military police will use their ``judgment, experience and training'' to determine if lethal force is necessary, she said. ``Deadly force can be used when lesser means of force aren't feasible or have failed, and to protect (Department of Defense) assets designated as vital to the national security,'' she explained. The deadly force policy will not deter protesters, said Peter Lumsdaine of the Vandenberg Action Coalition, one of the organizers of the planned trespassing. ``I think it does underline that people in the nonviolent resistance movement are willing to take some risks,'' Lumsdaine said. A Guadalupe man jumped onto the base's entrance sign Friday and sprayed it with 4 ounces of his own blood in a symbolic gesture of his anti-war stance. Dennis Apel, 52, later pleaded guilty to misdemeanor counts of trespassing and vandalism. He will be sentenced next month in a Santa Barbara federal court and faces a possible jail sentence or fine. ``We wanted them to see some blood,'' said Apel, a member of Guadalupe Catholic Worker, a social reform movement. ``We wanted them to in some way visually experience the consequences of what they're doing.'' Vandenberg has been on heightened alert since the 2001 terrorist attacks, with barricades near sensitive equipment and tighter access to the classified installation. Bako said the security measures, including the deadly force decree, are necessary because of the threat of biological weapons. ``It's impossible for us to determine what their intent is,'' she said. ``Are they protesters? Are there terrorists in that group and (do) they plan on killing everyone on base? They all have to be dealt with as very specific threats, whether they're vandalizing a sign, crossing the green (no trespassing) line or infiltrating the backcountry.'' add your comments

Good riddance by Daniel 5:22pm Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment She should not have been there in the first place .. it is partially her own fault - if you go to violent places, you are bound to be injured. However, Israel should boot everyone of this misguided idealists (at best) or rabid anti-Semites out of the country. I have little sympathy for them. There are two dozen conflicts in the world far far more brutal and long lasting than this one, and nobody gives a damn. Fuckign hypocrites and antisemites. She was not murdered, it was more likely an accident (have you ever asked yourself: what possible good can come from murdering an American peace activist, you brainless anti-Israeli morons? Sheesh .. but anything is good enough to smeer Israel). She died, and that is a tragedy. But she died, because she was used, used like the Palastinians are used for a decade-long war against Israel on all fronts. May she rest in peace, Rachel. That much emphathy I have because you were a victim - not of Israel, but of systematic brainwashing against an embattled state. For the rest, and the ISM, the supporters and apologist for suicide bombers, murderers, and so on .. you all can go to hell. add your comments

you'll be missed by so many, Rachel by brian d 7:23pm Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment well this is shocking, I can't remember the last time a friend or aquantance of mine has died. at least she died in struggle defending the less privelaged. I remember Rachel was a very fun person, had made many many friends in Olympia, both growing up in Olympia and going to school at Evergreen. without question she touched hundreds, maybe thousands I don't think this was an accident. unlike many of you posting things here I happen to believe some in the Israeli military are reckless BASTARDS. According to the UK Guardian: "An Israeli army bulldozer crushed an American peace activist to death in the Gaza Strip yesterday in what witnesses described as a deliberate killing. Rachel Corrie, 23, died as she attempted to prevent the military destroying homes in the Rafah refugee camp, one of the most dangerous in the occupied territories. " "She was standing on top of a pile of earth," said another activist, Richard Purssell, who was a few feet away. "The driver cannot have failed to see her. As the blade pushed the pile, the earth rose up. Rachel slid down the pile. It looks as if she got her foot caught. The driver didn't slow down; he just ran over her. Then he reversed the bulldozer back over her again. She was very courageous." to all of you who are slandering Rachel on this site I say screw the lot of you. She was not anti-semetic and neither am I for saying she died a brave soul. Maybe it's where I am from (WAstate) but I don't understand the firey rage that builds up in some people when Israel is criticized or resisted, as they keep an apartheid going on the Palestinians. Likewise I don't understand the firey rage of anti-semites but I think I can safely say that has nothing to do with this particular incident. Hopefully some good can come out of this. I'm going to contact my representatives and tell them to put more pressure on Israel to stop TERRORIZING the Palestinians. the ratio of palestinian deaths to Israelis in the last 2 years: 3 to 1. At least she has shown the rest of the world that there ARE Americans out there who give a damn about those who are being oppressed with the help of American military support, at a time when the rest of the world is beginning to truly hate us for such a crooked foreign policy. other stories: http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,915725,00.html http://www.webactive.com/ (here Democracy Now! will probably have a show about this today, with a link to the realplayer recording) www.mediaisland.org add your comments

Poor Rachel by Mork 9:14pm Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment Poor well meaning Rachel was too stupid to realize that if you go into a war zone and stand in front of a tank or bulldozer, you're liable to get runned over. She should have confined herself to supporting those helping homocide bombers and smuggling weapons in their homes, and stayed out of the IDF's way on the street. add your comments

such ugly comments by km 2:02am Tue Mar 18 '03 print comment how vile! do you people really think this girl should be reviled? and equated with terrorism? dragged through the mud again as if she were helping terrorists? you KNOW she as not, you pricks!! there is a distinction, you bastards, & you know it. how sick of you all. shame on you, on your mothers for bringing up such filthy specimens... she burned an american flag--our right as americans, to do so, as free people , as a political statement--i wouldnt do it, but screw anyone for equating that with traitor-ism, you dont deserve to be american & if you arent & are just inciting people, screw you twice! it seems to be that she went there on humanitarian basis, if she got swept up in the polotics, what do you expect from a young person?? that's no reason to be KILLED. protesting--she had a RIGHT to be protesting there--it is american $$$$ that keep israel running --HER tax dollars--& that keep the idf in top condition. her right was absolute. & sorry, fucking SORRY, but American citizens should be treated with exemplary respect by all israeli agencies, even the idf, because of all i stated & our friendly ties--& she WAS an american citizen, NO excuses.... no one deserves to be killed for using non-violent methods of protest either--whjat kind of twisted bullshit is THAT??? add your comments

HURRAY MORK! by that Dr. KM hates :) 5:03am Tue Mar 18 '03 print comment Hey Mork, Don't pay any attention to that dummy. She is too busy being self rightuous with her arts 'n farts degree telling the world how they SHOULD think. It's too bad that a young woman had to be filled with anti-semitic propagana through CNN ... maybe she'd be living a life that a normal 23 should be living? Or at least fighting a cause with some substance to it! TO KM: Too bad you are just a fuckin' dummy :) lol add your comments

Really Nothing Wrong with Jewish Identity? by Rowan Berkeley 9:06am Tue Mar 18 '03 print comment I have argued as a would-have-been ex-convert that, just as I decided after in-depth study that it wasn't worth BECOMING a Jew, so a point can come when people who were born Jewish may decide it is no longer worth going on BEING one. Someone who says he grew up as a Jew in Russia and hence knows anti-Semitism challenges my argument above. I expect he picked up on my semi-jocose reference to the Yevsektsia. For those who don't know, this was an organisation of communists of Jewish origin set up by the Bolsheviks to attempt to wean Soviet Jews away from their heritage of ethnic exclusivism after the Revolution. I choose my words with care. And in case any chicken-hawks are reading this (obviously some do, because they leave hate-filled comments), let me say that I am not a Marxist but a Spinozist and politically a centrist... add your comments

rest in peace Rachel by Leo 7:33pm Tue Mar 18 '03 print comment I must say I see a trend in this forum: well written sensible comments expressing support for Rachel and disgust for IDF's recklessness with human lives versus illiterate and ignorant outbursts of hate (from "Mork" etc). j. robinson, I totally agree with you! It sickens me that a supposedly civilized democracy such as Israel oppresses a large portion of it's own population and resort to medieval-style collective punishment! If a palestinian individual commits an atrocity IDF makes sure all palestinians pay for it. I'm very happy to read such well put comments from americans, I suppose I'm a bit prejudiced, sorry for that. Americans are often portrayed as stupid, violent nationalists (sometimes even christian fanatics...) in swedish media. Gotta love the internet! It's easy to forget that nationality means nothing, humans are humans. And by the way "Just a Simple Jew", opposing the state of Israel in it's current shape is not the same thing as opposing the people of Israel. Peace and love to you all. add your comments